And he offers keen insights that are desperately needed as many churches today struggle to be healthy and to avoid the mistakes other megachurches have made. Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. But now my faith in the whole institution is shattered. They didnt have the ability to respond to new issues as they arose. Growing up in a ministry family, Pete watched and learned from his parents and witnessed the reach and power of Telling the Truth 's media outreach. In context, I think my meaning becomes clear as I say soon after, agreeing with Mitchs assessment that unanimity is bad: Absolutely horrible. Welcome to the Roys report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. WebBriscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. You feel that they have to have more of a governance more of a hands on role than a lot of them do. Senior pastors dont need advocates. I Today were talking with Pete Briscoe, who served as the senior pastor for nearly three decades at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, Texas, and now consults with and coaches pastors. What is it was Chicago? At the end of the day the aftermath of destruction is felt on so many levels by so many people and we all react differently in our humanness. There was another case that also occurred where he committed oral sex with his assistant. With distinctly different teaching styles, you'll be moved by the emotional appeal of Jill and the compelling logic of Stuart, as they boldly proclaim God's sovereignty, grace, and love. Pete Briscoe was Senior Pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, TX for nearly 30 years. The church is literally a collection of people. None at all. That is not a matter of policy. WebSince that time he has ministered on every continent, written more than 40 books, pastored a church for 30 years, and founded a media ministry called Telling the Truth which now broadcasts daily worldwide. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. Now youre a lawyer. What makes you stick with that model and believe it can still be used despite how badly that model has been abused? I am with you in this sad place of justified disappointment in the church. You formed a nonprofit corporation. And if you dont have a character to lead, no manual is going to help you. What is it that causes so many people who know better, to look the other way and allow evil to prosper? And that set the course for some of these more severe things to continue happening, and then to even get more and more severe. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. And theres an element to which a church like Willow Creek was a global church, right? So Mitch has a very unique perspective. Lawyers are, by definition, advocates, right? Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. Jill and Stuart came to the States from England. But if you have a pastor with a glaring character flaw youre fooling yourself if you think youre gonna keep that character flaw in line with a pastor who doesnt put Jesus Christ first in his life, am I right? And its designed to be acretive, right that they gain strength over time. Pete reminds us that our goal is not to win arguments, but to win people. And I remember you saying once that you had gotten a manual, I think it was from the ECFA, and boy, we could talk about them. So he said something about so and sos clothing. And in the few times Ive spoken with him, I found his insights to be profound. WebSince that time he has ministered on every continent, written more than 40 books, pastored a church for 30 years, and founded a media ministry called Telling the Truth which now broadcasts daily worldwide. Later Telling the Truth began airing in several countries in southeast Asia and across 10 countries in southern Africa. It is a collection of people that we are to care for. Jill and Stuart came to the States from England. Mike is a dear friend and Im sad this day has come. Fellowship, Church family, Community. And heres what we have to do as people leading churches, okay, you have to understand what the signs of grooming are so one of the things that I did that really helps me, my good friend, Boz Tchividjian, put out a book through his organization G.R.A.C.E. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. Well, I want to turn our discussion to what youve experienced at your own church, which is a multi-site mega church there in the Dallas Fort Worth area, because those are things where youve been able to apply some of these lessons that youve learned from watching the negative example maybe of Willow Creek, youve learned an awful lot from going through crisis at your own church. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. (See page 54 and following) About Stuart and Jill Briscoe That is a very fair question. It is. And Hybels said, essentially, Yeah, well, well do it that way. And Clinton showed up and then didnt comply with anything that the board had said. Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. I think that he lost that. Well, early on in the process after the Tribune article, we had to make a decision, How are we going to fight a machine of this size that is basically promulgating lies about these women and their families and their supporters? And I reached out to people that I already knew within, you know, the watch blogging community. Its designed to be fought asymmetrically. And it turns out there were a lot more women who had been affected by Bill Hybels. This is the kind of thing that you would expect from someone whos cruel and not in relationship with Jesus. Guest Bios Show Transcript Many times, those who have experienced spiritual abuse are retraumatized when they try to speak about whats happened. And Willow lost the battle of PR on social media. I cant vouch for all the information because I havent researched it myself. Who hasnt given a friend a friendly kiss once in awhile? A man who "dedicated his life to sharing Gods Word with the world" has died at the age of 91. And I think Christian leaders need to start stepping up. Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. Why is it that nobody outside a very small group of women who had no power, really no position, why didnt others come to their rescue? Stuart and Jill Briscoe have always had a passion for teaching God's Word and speaking Truth into people's hearts and moving them toward God. If they have the character to lead the accountability will help keep them you know, keep them honest, so to speak, you know, its kind of like when you put a bike lock on your bike that. which Hybels assented to including you know, repenting for his behavior and not talking about politics and some other things as well. Why did so many look the other way for so long? For the next 90 minutes, Pete Briscoe enraptured us with his presentation of The Bema.. Pete served as the senior pastor at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Dallas, Texas for nearly 30 years, and he now ministers to pastors and organizational executives through personalized, professional coaching. He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is But this is the beauty of I think whats arisen is an independent media. However, whenever he would do that quavering voice, etc., I would wonder how he could do that for all three identical services? Thats a bad default state. But the thing that was so shocking to me, is that Bill Hy Hybels was the first pastor I had ever seen be so vulnerable from the pulpit. etc. We have an open listing for a lead teaching pastor in a what I believe is a healthy church environment. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! This is a calling. It was stunning to me. There was a period of time, Ill call, The Great Loneliness after that Chicago Tribune article came out, where they were radioactive. WebIt is with heavy hearts that the Elders of Bent Tree announce that Pete Briscoe has submitted his resignation as Senior Pastor. This is just the way things are in Corinth. Right. For that we are forever grateful. Leave them alone. I can see the elders (more than half of which were women), and people in general saying, It was only a hug. Pete Briscoe was Senior Pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, TX for nearly 30 years. When you say the IT department, its my understanding you came into some information about emails getting destroyed. Many more than even Vonda Dyer knew. So whos supposed to hold whos supposed to hold the leaders accountable in that structure? Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? So Im guessing youre not against lawyers being on board. Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. Destroyed by a staff person is my understanding. Correct? Not sad or contemplative, but agitated and very irritated. WebPete Briscoe answers that question by pointing us to Paul as the perfect example of one who speaks with tender boldness. How are you? Yes, in the course of representing these women, it became obvious that this was not what Ill call an echelon or tier leadership problem, just at Bill Hybels level. Its all a Business and Power tool and stage for Virtue Signaling. So thank you. I was blown away. Was there any evidence found that he actually had an affair? Hes just an affectionate kind of guy. People can do the job of preaching and leading a church for, you know, 40 plus weeks in the pulpit at a church of this size. And so I do think its a healthy thing when youre afraid of doing wrong, because it will be brought up and you will be held accountable. And thats what, thats what you end up protecting right? Thats a rhetorical question. When I came onto our board, the terms that Pete Briscoe used were, guide, govern and guard. And I think policy governance has the governing part. Im against too many lawyers, and I think Im in a position to critique this. Im good friends with Vonda Dyer, who worked at Willow and was one of the women who bravely came forward with her story about her interactions with Bill Hybels. Hybels at one point had a major conflict with a woman who was serving on the elder board, who was trying to hold him accountable and essentially used a reconciliation process involving some other big names in evangelicalism to essentially run her off, put her under an NDA. Yeah, were all saints who sometimes sin. Today, Telling the Truthis heard anytime and anywhere, thanks to international radio programming, the internet, and our mobile app. And so when you see behaviors that look like grooming, you know, John Calvin, Im not a Calvinist. So, Mitch, how is it that a lawyer from Texas ended up representing victims of sexual harassment at a mega church in Chicago? 1 talking about this. Tell us what you learned through you know, bringing this person to light, confronting him and dealing with the entire situation that we can learn from as a church. But they spoke. Is that correct? The news of Petes resignation landed heavy on my heart. My personal belief, not speaking on behalf of anyone else, my personal belief is that that structure is designed to fail, because elders cant elder in that structure. Yes, I have be disillusioned many times by churches and some leaders. I think it took courage. Just what I call a deformed leadership culture at the church where certain things became acceptable that shouldnt. You know, people like Dee Parsons, Julie Anne Smith, Julia Dahl, and people who I knew would not stop talking about it and would not stop talking about it for months. And this is whats so difficult. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. Yeah, without using any names. He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is Ive asked that question many times. A person whos not walking in the Spirit is susceptible to that type of behavior, even a senior pastor. Julie, you may want to review this pointwasnt a problem? We were fighting asymmetric warfare, right? Pete Briscoe was Senior Pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, TX for nearly 30 years. Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? Mike is a dear friend and Im sad this day has come. He was like one of these, I think until Scot decided to speak up, it was, Willow had credulity to say, These are people outside our tribe who are criticizing us. Thats not to say there arent authentic people there. I think there was a culture of pride at Willow that basically said, We are the elite of the Christian world. And if you think its not, you know, go and look in your church building right now, if youre quarantined under COVID, or youre not gathering. But youre right. And yet youre still in a megachurch, multi-site church. 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