They know how lousy the job market is right now, and Im sure they have a very good idea of what the numbers are going to look like, not only now, but in the coming months and years when it comes to out-of-work pilots. Neeleman touted Breeze as a "tech company that also happens to fly airplanes," but it's Embraer aircraft are noticeably low-tech. One Cough At A Time: Sick Travelers Galore! Colleges and universities already play a large role in the airline's hiring strategy. I could have worked for the also defunct Pilgrim Airlines. Disappointed but not surprised. Neeleman's track record speaks for itself with successes across three countries starting JetBlue Airways, Azul Brazilian Airlines, Morris Air, and WestJet, as well as a guiding TAP Air Portugal in a leadership role. For those who get hired by Breeze in this first round, I would imagine they'd be happy campers in a few years. There are several factors to consider when deciding whether or not to commute: The flights available for commuting will have significant impact on a commuting pilots time spent away from home. Work schedules begin and end at the domicile where a flight crew is based. Breeze will offer streaming in-flight entertainment including television shows and a map feature. Pilot bases are: CAK XNA TUL PIT Pilot Base Official Announcement video Haha love it . Either talk about what JBs starting rates were when they launched or write this article in 5 years and Ill think differently. A detailed overview of pilot jobs available to you! Pilots hired to Breeze now will be assigned to the Embraer fleet while the application window for the Airbus fleet will open early this summer. While we do try to list all the best miles and points deals, the site does not include all card companies or credit card offers available in the marketplace. Also even the numbers you quote put them right in line (if not slightly above) the regional peers like SkyWest. I applied for a ticket/ramp/gate/baggage handler position and got the job. . Flights (current) Check In; My Trips ; Support; Flight Status; Rent a Car; Find a Hotel; Careers; More . Must be at least 23 years old at the time of hire, Must have 1,500+ hours total time (not including simulator and/or Flight Engineer time), Current First-Class FAA Medical Certificate, Valid FCC Radiotelephone Operators Permit, Must have or be able to obtain a valid U.S. drivers license, Must have or be able to obtain a valid passport, Must be able to travel unrestricted to and from the United States, Must have authorization to work in the United States as defined by the Immigration Reform Act of 1986, High school diploma or equivalent educational achievement, FAA Unrestricted Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate with airplane multi-engine class rating, Must have a minimum of 3,000 hours fixed wing time. My only other option right now is to start all over at another regional where the pay, seniority, and quality of life will be much lower. "A nice airline doesn't push people to technology.". Lets compare Breezes pilot pay to that of a couple of other airlines: Heres JetBlues Embraer 190 pilot pay scale: JetBlue Embraer 190 pilots get paid way more. Breeze Airways is an American low-cost airline headquartered in Cottonwood Heights, Utah. Our values are the pillars of our Seriously Nice framework. Haha love it Reply 05-21-2021, 11:49 AM . I might have missed it. Commuter policies give pilots assurances of no disciplinary actions for not getting to work on time so long as the pilot makes an effort required by the commuter policy to get to work. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Henry Harteveldt, an industry analyst and the cofounder of Atmosphere Research Group, has been "disappointed" with what he's seen so far. Captain will make 3 times this Im surprised David Neeleman would set such low rates for pay. However, if there is a specific domicile you wish to work from it is good to plan airplane types around those that are based in your desired domicile. Well your also comparing companies that have been in business for a substantial time period. "There are a growing number of consumers who expect WiFi to be available everywhere they go, including airplanes," Harteveldt said. Seems like they could be taking advantage of this particular moment in time, and the situation the industry is in. Rebook or cancel up to 15 minutes prior to scheduled departure without penalty. There are cities scattered around that have low cost of living while also having good flight access to several major operational hubs. But you can either create one or use accounts from other sites such as apple, Facebook, google. But even places with tons of lifers like SkyWest still upgrades people and still gets applicants. Before we get into the details of Breezes pilot pay, and compare it to pay at other airlines, note that: First year Breeze pilots will make $36,300. No one is forcing applicants to accept pay they don't like. NOW WATCH: Airline salaries compared to stock buybacks show why so many people are angry at the bailout, What Boeing wants you to know about starting a new airline, according to its step-by-step guide, American Airlines recently retired the Embraer E190 from its fleet in 2020, paid college interns that attend online classes when they're not flying. "One of our biggest pitches and approaches is: live when you fly and fly where you live," Coleman said. Expanding with factory new Airbus A220-300 Airliners. If a pilot gets into a successful start up, the long term benefit to quality of life could be substantial and shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. As one of our most highly visible Team Members, Flight Attendants are responsible for the safety and comfort of our Guests and fellow Team Members; we expect them to welcome and accommodate Guests, mitigate high-stress situations, collaborate and problem solve with other Team Members, use good judgement, and just benice. Support Flight Status . We pay the least to all our staff! And the airline's Airbus A220-300 fleet will offer WiFi as the aircraft will be performing longer flights. This year is unique in pilots employment, but when the majors start hiring again, they will love poaching all the pilots from Breeeze! Visit AirlinePilot.life to learn more about commuting to work as an airline pilot. Love how the link says "initial-airports" the the title in the article says, Has there been pilot domiciles posted to the public, Position: MEC Chairman, Snack Basket Committee, has there been pilot domiciles posted to the public, to book a ticket, you must have an account. Our normal business hours are Monday-Friday 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. (Pacific Time). How often is the minimum guaranteed hours exceeded in a given month? The comments about this airline attracting the bottom of the barrel are unfair considering the circumstances. Our Pilots are overall Leaders who safely take care of our Team Members and Guests. "The 190 being the same type rating, yes, it's almost kind of a natural step.". Add to that COVID and these poor guys will have NO CHOICE but to fly for these asshats. An employers commuter policy, usually defined in an employment agreement, can make a significant difference in the stress associated with commuting to work. I think a lot of Airlines would be happy to have the pilots at 55 instead of 75. "Breeze absolutely will be able to attract some customers," Harteveldt said "The question is, will they be differentiated enough to attract enough customers, and will they attract enough people to be profitable?". "We really are all about [how] nice and kindness goes a long way.". Just one profile allows pilots to apply to multiple employers and to be contacted by employers searching for qualified candidates. Not if you wanted good work done. Our point-to-point network means no connections for an easier, quicker and nicer journey. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. "A concern that I have is that the target Breeze customer may be less likely to own a smartphone, they may be less likely to own tablets, they may be less likely to use technology in their personal and work lives," Harteveldt said. While baggage fees are lower than most competitors at only $20 for either checked or carry-on luggage, there are caveats. I have no doubts in my mind that they'll increase it in time, but they need a few years of profitability under their belt first so they can justifiably offer higher hours/pay. Great article !!! Second, the amount of flights they'll even have to offer in their first year or two is relatively small but not surprising for the type of flying they're doingie. Commuting to reserve requires pilots to spend significant amounts of time away from home. Once a pilot is assigned to one aircraft, though, they're locked in for at least three years before a switch can be made. The pay increase announced last month moves starting first officer pay on the carrier's Embraer 190s and 195s from $55 a flight hour to $61 a flight hour, an increase of 11%. "Charge me $3 to print a boarding pass, charge me $50 to check a bag in with an agent. Finally, Breeze needs to get its financial footing or their employees could all be forced out on the street. This is not to fault or say any of my peers who's airlines have gone defunct (through no doing of their own) are underskilled pilots - they are well seasoned vets of an industry that was finally recovering from 9/11, the recession, age 65 rule and now COVID. David Neeleman has always been a skinflint. American would attempt to get the lowest pay rates in the industry on comparable equipment. The founder of the airline is David Neeleman, the same guy behind JetBlue. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. Since that time he has accumulated close to 8,000 hours working as a pilot. Some airlines have only a few domiciles while others can have several domiciles spread throughout the country, or even internationally. Breeze Airways is the latest brainchild of JetBlue Airways founder David Neeleman. 28 years represented by ALPA, walked the picket line 29 days in 1985 and was ready to do it again several times during my career to entice management to come to the negotiating table with a better contract for pilots. They might not have CASS right away. This is absolutely exploitive. For what you spent in training together with what is intelectually asked of a pilot, pay is completely out of line with most smaller/regional airlines. Welcome to PILOT CAREER CENTER - Pilot Jobs and more! Smaller Embraer E190 and E195 fleet of aircraft are being used initially, with no more than 118 seats on the larger model, allowing Breeze to be more competitive on routes with traditionally low demand. The flight benefits and jumpseat agreements pilots have as part of their job affords the option of commuting. I worked for the now defunct Bar Harbor Airlines in the 80s. Breeze's plan to use college students enrolled in online courses with Utah Valley University has drawn ire from big labor, and Harteveldt isn't a fan either. "They want to work for the newest and the nicest airline out there with new shiny planes or gently used planes," Jan Coleman, Breeze's manager of pilot recruitment, told Insider. You could sit around half a day, everyday, and not get paid for it. But after all these furloughed guys get hired, who then? Do you really want to get on an airplane flown by people with financial problems and no better options? A single-fleet operation keeps pilot training and maintenance costs down, as well as maximizes efficiency in a pilot pool. We are a team of aviation, hospitality, and technology enthusiasts who believe flying is the greatest privilege and opportunity in the world. "We're really looking for those folks that have good time on the E-Jet to get us started," Coleman said. For now its all supply and demand compounded with an industry in the toilet. I received an email a few weeks ago to log into the new site and create a profile. This is a very long thread with a lot of trolls, so forgive me if what I'm asking was answered 50 pages ago. The airline is hiring both pilots and flight attendants, given that its close to launching operations. Visit AirlinePilot.life to learn more about commuting to work as an airline pilot. Breeze says its A220 pilots will be away for two, three, or four days at a time . Would you pay your doctor, lawyer, nurse, even architect, engineer, electrician, plumber, welder etc. Please use the form below to contact our customer service or sales team. The delay was due to the airline not having its air operator's certificate, or AOC. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. Open time extra pay can be substantial for pilots that make it a priority. It'll have more A220s than E190/E195s, with its Airbus jets to be used every day of the week - unlike its Embraers. It takes just minutes to set up your profile and begin matching with available opportunities. What do you make of Breezes approach to hiring? Bottom line: Supply and Demand principles are at play. You have successfully joined our subscriber list. Getting in on the ground floor of a seniority-based company also has its perks. Take it easy. Seat assignments also start at $10, although families with children under 12 can choose their seats for free. Breeze will initially fly 118-seat Embraer 195s, but eventually plans to operate a fleet consisting exclusively of Airbus A220s. Domicile Choices At Legacy, Major, and Regional Airlines, Few careers have as much flexibility as pilots when it comes to choosing where to live. Our fares are low! I read a q&a from earlier in the year about tech innovations he's bringing to the table. Commutes requiring more than one flight leg add significant time to commuting. The extra flying option is referred to as open time. But its gross. Breeze Airways is a new airline thats expected to launch in the US in early 2021. Some airlines have only a few domiciles while others can have several domiciles spread throughout the country, or even internationally. PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL THIS COMPANY unless you meet their: International Students: Please do not contact this school regarding Free Pilot Training, Sponsorship, Financial Assistance, or Guaranteed Job Placements. "It's not like if you're 18 years old, you can't be a flight attendant.". Sounds awfully low especially with a 55-hour minimum pay. Is TPA going to be a pilot base? Also, let's be honest: COVID is a new reality for pilots. Only Skyworst has no union in the regional game, and they continue to get guys to sign up by force feeding the kool-aid by the tankful. It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. It's that, or these guys and their families starve. Breeze Airways First Officer Minimum Qualifications Must be at least 23 years old at the time of hire Must have 1,500+ hours total time (not including simulator and/or Flight Engineer time) Must have a minimum of: o 750 hours of fixed wing time o 500 hours cross country o 250 hours PIC o 100 hours night o 75 hours instrument 31. I'm curious how many days on-call per month they have. But onboard WiFi goes beyond internet browsing and can have some cost-saving benefits for an airline. "If you're a fully trained flight attendant, you're a fully trained flight attendant," Edmondson-Jones said. "And if Breeze is hoping to attract millennial and Gen Z consumers as its customers, they're going to be disappointed that there's no WiFi onboard on the plane". less than daily to leisure/small markets. Neeleman is known for building airlines with great cultures, but I kind of have a hard time getting behind this whole concept at Breeze. {{((ctrl.offer == 'pcgpdf' || ctrl.offer == 'acpp') && 'Get Your FREE Download') || (!ctrl.compactForm && ctrl.newlead.program.buttonText || 'Request More Info')}}. The Airbus A220-300 will allow Breeze to fly to Hawaii, Europe, and even South America if the airline desires. The LDS coming from the Beehive State have, at the end of the day, always thought of its team members really as worker bees. The pay scale offered is not "borderline exploitative", it IS exploitative. anything less than market rate? In-flight WiFi, for example, won't be offered on the aircraft. Why are we encouraging a race to the bottom? Rival Avelo's fee structure is more lenient, says Harteveldt, although the two don't directly compete yet. Im a retired AA captain. "The core component of a brand promise is consistency," Harteveldt said. JetBlue is the only other major US airline to fly Embraer 190/195s, proposed pilot pay is the free market at work. This article mentions and quotes minimum monthly guarantee, but fails to show the pay for picking up extra flying. The comments in here are so disheartening. I see on their latest pilot job posting on their website the E170/190 type has been moved to the "preferred" section. Work schedules begin and end at the domicile where a flight crew is based. Will they get pilots? Sign up for notifications from Insider! Request Info on Becoming a Pilot Cargo (toggle all / none) UPS FedEx Mountain Air Cargo Freight Runners Express Legacy (toggle all / none) United Delta Air Lines But lower than expected recruitment numbers have required the airline to open up regular positions with no requirements of being a student, airline spokesperson Gareth Edmondson-Jones confirmed to Insider. I will never fly them, nor will I encourage anyone to work for them or fly them, until they pay real, market rates. Low fares. Breeze Airways is a new airline that's expected to launch in the US in early 2021. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. Breeze Airways Wants To Pay Pilots How Much?! West coast bases are frequently more senior for most pilot employers. Four major career destroying events in 20 years. Pilots from Compass and Expressjet will flock to Breeze to maintain currency. Pay increases by an average of 12% for each year of seniority. Glad I was just in time to work and fly through the good times and happily retired now. The two airlines couldn't be any more different, however, despite having the same founder. Wasn't aware of breeze low pay scale. At those rates, retention will be a huge problem. I'm a 'union guy' for sure. pilots @AA, UA, DL = NYC cab drivers. They understand that our pursuit of Excellence is not a destination, but rather, a journey. Visit our career page for all current job openings. Access your favorite topics in a personalized feed while you're on the go. Breeze's. Pilots won't go straight from the classroom to the cockpit, however, as they'll need to build up their flight hours to Breeze's requirements, which is often done through flight instructing. Add to that COVID and these poor guys will have NO CHOICE but to fly for these asshats. FO Adam absolutely nailed it. Domicile in airline terms this is the permanent location of flight crew. I'm a 'union guy' for sure. This is to cover training costs and to prevent extra training cycles from pilots jumping around between airplane types. One incident involving a Breeze employee can also threaten a "nice" airline's reputation, Harteveldt says. Breeze did delay some route launches until later in the summer, which may give it more time to sell tickets. Thank you! 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