both m104 and 2jz handle 1000hp but the price is real big difference. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. you really should join the 190 forum (sorry, i don't have a link) as JavaScript is disabled. The alternator for the W124 will work, but the wires will be kinked in an unnatural position. I believe you are correct that it came with a V6. Wow, Thanks for all the info. I remember seeing an AMG 190E on ebay, fuly decked out by AMG and Renntech a while back. I think if you're looking for a fast 124, you have a bunch of options that'll be cheaper than swapping a v8 into an I6 car. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. Mercedes made a ton of upgrades when they put the V8 into the 6-cyl chassis, which is why you can't easily upgrade the E320. Makes a fantastic daily driver. Is that a street car? While there Auto-Gruppen persuaded the turbocharged 3.2 L Mercedes M104 inline-six into making 953 hp and 1081 Nm (797 lb-ft) of torque to the wheels on 2.14 bar (31 psi) of boost from a EFR9180 turbocharger. The sedan rides on Yellow Racing coilovers, OZ Future wheels (179,1712), CL600 front brakes, and 300TE rear brakes. And if so is there no way around it? This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I did all the swaps and all the work myself. JavaScript is disabled. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. M104.98x Motor Swap in a 190E One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums. 1990 190E 2.6 oil pressure problem uh-oh! And still, the purists cried, "Heresy!" Front of block: 350SDL "Diesel" crank (Now not just limited to L series fun for strokers!) An additional option is to have a high pressure diagnostic port installed as well since this port will be lost from switching to the M104 A/C manifold. This Mercedes W124 300E called Blueberry is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. JavaScript is disabled. via Oppositelock. VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. The injection system is still CIS and the ignition system is still EZL, but additional work is required to make the swap complete. Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). The 20% difference consists of 10% engine/gearing, 8% bodywork and interior, and 2% everything else. I wish I could have a M3 or Audi TT, but dont have the cash. as i have said, the chassis for 2.6 vs all other models are different. you have a 2.6 sportline 5spd they are super had to come by( ask me how i know) i would leave it alone and do the maintenance to it. Will be taking it there soon so I'll post my times. Learn how your comment data is processed. as for fitting in the 104 engine, it is anyone's guess whether the manifold and down pipes will clear the steering box. 1996 Volvo 855GLT, 1993 MB 190e 2.3 8v, 1998 Subaru Outback SUS, 1991 BMW 525, 1998 MB C230. Mine isn't an LE though, just a 190e sportline. Navigation Menu. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Lengthen and connect the 3 prong connector under fuel distributor for airflow potentiometer (brown/green, blue/black, blue/green), Lengthen and connect the 1 prong coolant temperature sensor (green), Lengthen and connect the 2 prong coolant temperature sensor (brown, green), Lengthen and connect cold start valve wire, Longer CIS 4 prong coolant temperature sensor. Lower hose is only about 20cm long. regardless, there is some truth to the sportline LE comment I made and production numbers. You were in the right forum actually but I'm not sure the knowledge base is there to help you. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. As @a777fan said, there are multiple discussions of these types of engine swaps on the forum. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. For those unfamiliar with the project, it's powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a . Although this is still a tiny bit longer and almost doesn't fit. Connect single pin connector by ignition coil, Connect AC compressor wires (blue/green, white, blue/red), Connect throttle position wires (brown/yellow, brown, gray/yellow). I believe that the M102, M103 and M104 bellhousing patterns are the same, meaning you can mount a 5-speed transmission from a 300E or 190E onto your M104. So my question is, can I just find a used M104 3.2 liter engine and ECU, and toss it into my car? But any ways, what engines can I put in my 190? CIS 4 prong sensor is now located at the water pump so this needs to be lengthened. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. Remember that according to any 400E/E420 owner, it is 90% of a 500E !! Not to mention, but on the 500E, the computers are located under the hood, and the battery is located in the trunk. I am currently working on a my W201 2.6 project car. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. via Engine Swap Depot If it doesn't stall leave it alone!!!!!!!!!!!! Doing the upgrades on an E420 is plug+play, and easily done if you have the ability to handle an engine swap. Remove with transmission attached. Team Lovetap is a Swedish drift team started by driver and fabricator Mrten Stngberg. Engine Swap Depot. The turbocharger system consists of a TB90 90 mm turbocharger, 60 mm wastegate, 50 mm blowoff valve, Turbobandit intake, 90 mm throttle body, and stainless exhaust manifold. Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? Is there a worthy replacement for the 190E 2.6. Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. It's 80%. What can be done and how much will it cost? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Another 500e wagon is born: Silver / Gray | High-Performance Modifications, Imperial Red 500E Wagon Build | High-Performance Modifications, SOLD - 1995 E420 Special Edition, Brilliant Silver/Gray, 113k, $4900 (Tampa, FL) | 400E / E420 Cars for Sale. The work in the trunk involved installing a new fuel cell, fold-down radiator, expansion tank, and tubular structure. Connect oil pressure and oil level sensor wires, Bolt wire bracket to rear of intake manifold (10mm), Connect alternator wires coming from right fender, Connect rear crankshaft position sensor wire, Connect front crankshaft position sensor under X11 diagnostic port, Connect heater return hose at back of engine, Use W124 water reservoir overflow hose and 190E valve from thermostat cover, Use T connector at front vacuum nipple to connect to EZL and EGR/Smog pump solenoid, Connect black striped white vacuum line from throttle body to check valve at fender behind headlight, Connect 3 vacuum line at rear of intake manifold. One thing i forgot to mention, the sway bar and the skid plate needs to be modified but thats easy peasy. I think mine should run 14's no problem at the track. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. Hi Adriano. The motor is mated to a modified 722.634 five-speed automatic transmission with custom 5000 rpm converter, W124 210 mm LSD rear end, and Sportline 300E 32 mm axles. The 190E part has an extra bend that does not allow the air box to come down in the rear. go the suggested 400E + LH M119 route, which gives you an 80-90% chance of success. Well, I am right with you. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Swapped! Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? cheap way ,and use procharger instead. all that accumulated grease and oil. Heater core and radiator connections are both identical, M103 vacuum hard line fits well, 124.104 PS Pump has larger fittings 201.103 is direct replacement just swap over rear mount bracket, late model 124 AC discharge lines up with condenser..suction just needs one crimp to combine 103 upper and 104 lower half R R0BB09 E500E Newbie Aug 10, 2019 However, The flywheel is going to be a problem for you. Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. BMW broke the hearts of many fans worldwide with the debut of the E90 generation of their M3 sports car. The original 190E engine support brackets must be brought over from the original motor as well as the motor mounts. What did you need to do to convert the coils from the three coils and three wires to six individual invention coils on the m104 engine? Not needed anyhow. Each wheel is turned by upgraded axles with modified knuckles and BMW E34 hubs. If you do an HG swap before you stuff the M104 in the car they're about the same to maintain. For reference: I've owned/own 2 M104 swapped 190Es. I'm sure you can find a high mileage 87 TD car and just rebuild the engine and possibly even do a trans swap. 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM And isn't the M119.960 slightly wider and taller, making the fit into a 124 even harder? I would like to put an engine in mine that puts out at leat 300maybe 255+. For those unfamiliar with the project, its powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox. Aftermarket is obviously with the LS. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Another option is to swap in the CIS version of the M104 engine found on the earliest M104 powered cars (1990-1992 300CE and 1990-1993 300SL). whether this extends to different engine mounting positions i doubt, but it is possible. It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. The W124 has the connection point closer underneath the brake booster line and is about 5 inches shorter. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU and it made 800 horsepower and 930 Nm of torque to the wheels. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU . Bolt starter to transmission later. Hello S70/2, Im new to this forum, well any forum in fact but I need a lot of help, Im currently undertaking an m104 hfm swap, the motor is in and have managed to wire it to the extent where it turns, fuel pump responds to m104 fp relay but cant seem to get it to spark, Ive currently taken all the wirering back out to start again, I have full wirering diagrams printed out, one thing Im confused with is how the ecu is supplied with power? Take whatever "positive vibes" translates to monetarily and treat your 036 with a barrage of restorative upgrades and needed and not-so-needed service and maintenance and probably still have some money to buy $5k euro headlights. I could make a you-tube video to document the process with lots of "Hey Guys today I'll just pop the motor in" and a mere few tea breaks later the engine will be in and it will all be easy peasy time for epic burnouts. A number of years back I had converted a manual 1987 W124 200 (4 cylinder carb engine) to a 3.6 HFM engine and auto trans. '87--190E 2.3-16v(being rebuilt), '99--C230 Kompressor. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Source: Team Lovetap (project page), Team Lovetap FB page, Auto-Gruppen FB page, and Drifted. No matter how i lean it back and forth the steering box is not touching anything, the engine mounts are in the correct place it and it has like a 2-3 cm gap from the starter. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.d-td-class/2408521-e36-amg-project.html?amp=1, nos AMG Bodykits C126 W126 W124 W201 W116 R107. Include wire from ground at ignition coil bracket. Only 100 cars like mine ever imported into the US, really, I don't know, can anyone cite accurate numbers? I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. Doesn't the 93 sportline have the switchable differential? Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. If it was a black 2.6, with gray cladding, that's John's car from the over on the rev. Looks like im gonna be spending a lot of money on this projecthehe. Mrten will lower the power to around 860 whp while . w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. The easiest swap out, would be a 90-93 300SL Engine Swap. How much power can you get out of the 16v? That was later replaced with a turbocharged M104.992 inline-six now making 1000+ horsepower on 8.7:1 compression and MegaSquirt MS3X ECU. Will always be cheaper to get what you want from the get go, If a wagon is your thing, maybe find a junkyard S124 and V8 124 with a crappy body and just frankenstein them? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. 1- the M104.980 should be direct one due o the similarity with my M103 2.6 CIS system, but I need to have the ECU, the EZL and the harness. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. Affectionately called the LS-190, the swap looked to be carefully planned out, and rather well executed. We had a 5.0L from an 80's mercedes, 240bhp, but decided to go with the higher revving motor. Source: VRP Fab (large build gallery) via ESD reader Piotr. Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. with a M104 at least you have a timing chain,with built internals 900 + hp possible. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. Going to add the flywheel magnet to a single mass M103 FW, Forgot to mention this is also a non-ASR engine, the amount of wire harnesses and modules even on the simpler 6cyl is a bit staggering.I think adapting a BMW M50 motronic would probably be easier, Steve Geyer has done this swap with his 190E, he would be an excellent source for this. So one day we decided that that nobody has ever ( that I've seen) built and successfully completed a 500e wagon. Use your original engine mounts and exhaust downpipe, these are a direct fit to the m104. 4 bangers can be quite powerful.. He is an electrical wizard. The M104 A/C manifold's low pressure hose cannot reach the connection point at the edge of the fender on a 190E chassis. Let's see .. Palli, you're in the correct forum. Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. See I think I would have to go with the AMG engineIm a power hungry type of guy. I've always wondered why people make the wagons accept V8s when it might be easier to make the sedan a wagon (shooting brake, if you will). You will need to reclock the alternator by removing the screws holding the 2 halves of the alternator together and turning them to match how a 190E alternator looks. MBWorld member Gen3Benz had the ambitious plan of stuffing an LS1 V8 motor under the hood of his W201. It may not display this or other websites correctly. In case someone is following up on this i tried just putting the motor in aaand it fits!!! Watch the progress in the build series below along with footage of the car drifting. When you find one, buy it. Power will be greater with an LS swap. My typo error corrected (w210 ===>w201). Ive heard opinions that Toyotas 2JZ was heavily inspired by this M104 series, which came out a year before the 2JZ (and ofc the earlier M103 and M110 series from the late 70s). Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). Mrten competes in a special 2003 Mercedes CLK we first covered in 2015. Could any of yall point me in the right direction to d this? Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? I haven't done much looking into the nitty gritty details myself when it comes to the electrical side of the swap, I just know it's becoming increasingly more prevalent. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. Was real nice. M104.981ish 3.0L Engine Block Moar. Im very glad Ive discovered this thread as when I started the swap in January this wasnt posted yet, Im mechanically minded but new to cars and electrics in general, any pointer will be much appreciated, thanks! Don't tear into the 190e yet, I would like to purchase it from you ! After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. I have a friend who had a 3.0L from a 300E in his 190 and it was pretty quick too. Now that I'm fully woken up and on my third cup of coffee, I also want to mention that the KE-Jet M119 has a completely different computer and electronics setup than the LH-based M119 cars. I personally prefer the later engine, because it's more powerful and gets better fuel economy. All bolt-in, no welding required. I think you meant steering box/column from a w201 (not W210) W103 is what you meant. I believe the lotus elan used a turbocharged or supercharged 4 banger which produced nice power. Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. These are the prices for the 95 E320 two years ago: $575.00 124 440 56 32 (early model run) $714.76 124 440 29 33 (late model run) You can type in these part numbers (or the number on your current harness) on FastLane to determine the current prices. One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. I would reduce the length by half a centimeter. Once all the wiring is laid out it is pretty simple to figure out. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. :p, What about suspension and the rearend? Any slk egne fit in there? Simply put, the M103 and M104 share the same block, primary differences are the head and the injection setup. I owned a supra before this car and miss it. Most E420's do not have ASR nor heated seats. The Mercedes-Benz M104 is a straight-6 automobile engine produced from 1989 through 1999. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. What are some 1/4 time and or top speed #'s for people have done these swaps? Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. 20cm is slightly too long). The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. Also note that the 1992 M119 engine is a KE-Jetronic engine, whereas the M119 as used in the 500E is LH-Jetronic, and the injection as used on the M104 you mentioned is HFM (essentially Motronic). The ol' girl has probably done around 8-10k trouble free miles since the swap, until the air pump bearing decided to retire and smoked the belt. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I guess a V8 it sorta out of the questionand seems kinda pointless. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. the volvo is a non turbo auto which will become a t-5R 5 spd in the future. The M104.98x now has an updated version of CIS that is not directly compatible with the older version. Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. used 2jz is about 3500-10000 $. this is why my mercedes is a stock classic show car and my NA volvo 850 GLT is going to me my tuned performance car. Navigation Menu . Maybe a steering unit from a w210? the m103 to m104 is a pretty common swap but the power gain is about 60hp or so. i think you would need to splice int he wiring harness from the 104. it is alot of work if i had to do this i would do a m117 swap. A solution to fix this is to use the M104 A/C manifold (104 230 04 56 is NLA, aftermarket solution: Four Seasons 55586) and have both hoses custom made. Hi i'm looking for some information on swapping my w201 (2.0 automatic) for a manual 2.8 m104. It was built for the track and drifting. This Nissan 350Z was built to drift by Yaroslav Kremets from Nomotors in Kyiv, Ukraine. I would also like to do suspension up grades and a EVOII kit in the future. It barely sticks now when floored. Well my 93 had a 2.85:1 rear diff, and rear sub frame mods r highly recommendedSuspension, well Eibachs is what I useIf you want roll bars, Delsing 500E rollbars, with the ends cut a little to fit the 190E. If you really want to get speed though, deff change the brakes. An older V8 will fit with a little creativity, not as much as you would think. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. How to get your M119 5.0L V8 running optimally? '85 Euro 190E 2.3-16, '84 Euro 500SE, '90 300SEL, '51 Euro 170S, '15 G63 AMG. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The secondary firewall and motor mounts are also positioned differently to accommodate the extra length of the M103. Quote: Originally Posted by oldsinner111. Yeah, I've got a thread going over there too. The team also includes mechanics Christopher Reinholdsson, Robin Carlsson, Stefan Engstrm, Jesper Jumisko, Edvin Olsson, Joel Haglund, and media/spotter Sebastian Simonsson. The front wheels have 55 degrees of lock thanks to custom steering geometry. If you have an E320 sedan and want more power, start shopping for an E420 with ASR and heated seats, rust-free, in your favorite color combo. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. 120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. Learn how your comment data is processed. With such a light car I don't think you need more than 300. I used 400E brakes, but the nicest is using 95 SL 600 brakes up front and rearThe rear are vented rotors instead of solidI've seen racing slicks lock up with 190Es and no ABS with these brakesBut be prepared for another $1200. This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. The engine is mated to a Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox using a Sachs Motorsports pressure plate, Tenaci Motorsport 200 mm clutch discs and flywheel. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. If I was ever going swap in a V8 into a W124 sedan it would be a Chevy LS motor. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. 3-Way adjustable coilovers same block, primary differences are the head and the injection.. 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