Theres not a lot of filler, not a lot of songs I would skip through, he says. And as it happened, eventually the auxiliary cable quit working in the van. Amanda Shires appeared on The Late Late Show to perform her recent song Take It Like a Man. Playing with her band, the singer offered an emotive take on the GROSS: Thats the title song from the new album. Lets get back to my interview with singer, songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. Then her character takes control of the exchange in a teasing tone. And then she wanted to know if it was real, so she hired a private investigator and all this. Isbell took a stand, even facing backlash from his fellow artists. And I think theres more valuable strength there than there is in suppressing your emotions and poisoning yourself with your own feelings, I guess. A person having a miscarriage may have to fly to another state, just so they or their doctor doesnt get into legal trouble. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. You could say its all my fault. We just couldnt get along. I was learning orchestra and classical music in school and privately. Her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back. Theres so much attached to folks thinking women treat it as a kind of birth control. And then I thought about Waylon [Jennings] and Kris [Kristofferson] and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, They were kind of speaking about ageism. I said, Itd be cool if I had a band, The Highwomen. Then I told my friend Dave Cobb about my idea and he really liked it and he said, Im going to have you meet Brandi Carlile. And we met. Hearing Shires spell that out is invigorating. Shed been learning to play classical music on If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. And he was there for 25 years. WebAmanda Shires - The Problem (feat. It took Dave Cobb and it took Brandi and then it took Natalie [Hemby] and Maren Morris. Well be right back. I accept it now. And I know that he feels the same way I do. SHIRES: I mean OK Im going to call her up after this, too. And it also made me stronger in the fact that I could feel comfortable singing about it and talking about it. SHIRES: (Singing) Im well aware of what the nights made of. GROSS: Good. Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. They arent helping. You dont see a lot of men speaking up, and every voice is helpful. People are still going to get abortions, and were going to have to keep peoples secrets, and house people, and try to do the best we can. And then you also youve got guys thatll back you up. So did you ever visit her at work? Send us a tip using our anonymous form. OK. This part of my life and our marriage was difficult and it took me back to the reason I came to writing and doing music in the first place, which is expression, she says. We found all this out afterwards. Video Playlist: Drive-By Truckers Play Pared-Down Southern Rock, You can still find those adventures if you surround yourself with the right people, Isbell tells Rolling Stone, sitting at a picnic table on the roof of the Port City Music Hall in Portland, Maine, where hell perform in a couple of hours, a few days after his Newport set. The most-watched episode was from April 8th, filmed the day after John Prine And she would dance a little bit to The Beatles and stuff and started seeing the possibility that she might go into music one day. GROSS: Was this your mothers father or your fathers father? And luckily, my teacher was one of those good and rare teachers that notices when you know, when a student needs a little more help. Shires new album, Take It Like A Man, includes several songs she wrote that came out of a difficult period in her marriage to Jason Isbell. When we left off, we were talking about when Shires was 15 and started playing fiddle with the Texas Playboys, which used to be Bob Wills band. It's a sentiment that Shires has echoed many times since. In a June 2022 follow-up, the artist detailed for Rolling Stone her experience of ending a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy in August 2021. Im glad to be a listener and also glad to see folks from those generations supporting the right to choose. GROSS: So you ended up, like, accompanying him. And I save them all. And then you also get to play you get to improvise, which is when you go off the page, as they say, or you just play what you feel within the chords. Ive listened to all of his records. Then I tried recording it in a couple of other situations, and I just didnt have it right yet. It just seemed like the right thing to do because I dont want to spend my time on stage worried about if Im making people sick.. And he said, well, you can always put it on there and just choose not to answer questions about it and, you know or you can he was pushing for me to leave Fault Lines on there because it is a good song, as he said. Shires new album, Take it Like a Man, includes several songs she wrote during a rough period in her marriage to musician Jason Isbell. To see more, visit. I dont understand why its such a big issue, as big of an issue as it is. In "Leave It Alone," a song introduced by a brittle, programmed loop and a jangly, arpeggiated guitar figure, she elegantly describes exploring a new lover's body: "Hands find the places where they've never been, to know for themselves new surfaces / And mine, they've got a mind of their own / I can't leave it alone." Copyright 2023 Penske Business Media, LLC. And I hadnt heard the fiddle being played at all. And youve called on country music stars to speak out, too. I mean, is it fatal for a woman if nothing is done? Well close with the opening track from Amanda Shires new album. Fully renovated in 1994, the Ryman has never been more vibrant, attracting entertainers and fans from around the globe to enjoy its now legendary acoustics and rich history.Connect with the Ryman Auditorium:Like the Ryman Auditorium on FACEBOOK: http://bit.ly/rymanfbCheck out the Ryman Auditorium on INSTAGRAM: ttp://bit.ly/RymanInstagram Follow the Ryman Auditorium on TWITTER: http://bit.ly/tweettherymanBEHIND THE SCENES with Amanda Shires | Backstage at the Ryman | Ryman Auditoriumhttp://www.youtube.com/user/RymanAuditorium#AmandaShires, #Ryman, #TheHighwomen, #RymanAuditorium, #BackstageattheRyman And then it was never like, oh, they have to be on a record once I do record them. How did you decide to say that these songs are really about a bad period of your marriage? Amanda Shires and Jason Isbell depict a couple having an honest, difficult conversation about abortion in the new song The Problem. The tracks release coincides with International Safe Abortion Day and proceeds from its sales will go to the Yellowhammer Fund, a reproductive justice organization based in Alabama. And I really liked it. I tried so hard to make myself clear. Do you need the reasons why? Elizaveta Porodina/Courtesy of the artist I am Terry Gross. Shires has an MFA in poetry, and she's exacting in her use of imagery to portray sensuality as a force both internal and physical. And the fallopian tube just cant it it cant expand enough to accommodate a growing fetus. GROSS: How did you end up actually playing in the Texas Playboys band? Theyre just songs because everybody goes through troubles in their relationship. Not standing up for folks is not helping and its not right. Upcoming Dates Past Thats the percentage of people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 who have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death, according to the CDC. Then I told my friend Dave Cobb about my idea and he really liked it, and he said, Im going to have you meet Brandi Carlile. Its a lot like writing a song about it. Why did you want to form this group? Well definitely get to your verse, which is the second one. SHIRES: Oh, I would have had to find somebody to drive me to Mexico or somewhere else. But one time, you know, not everybody could make a show. My focus stays strong I can work on a song for six or seven hours in one day, and not get bored or tired of it.. I could tell my milk cow I could tell by the way she lows. So theres thinking my thinking is that my granddad married my grandmother knowing that she was pregnant with somebody elses child. He asserted that the band would cancel the concert if any venue refused to agree to their requirements. You know, like, how does that go? When it reopened, he was in the first 200. And sometimes Tommy would show me stuff on guitar, like a melody to play, and then see if I could memorize it or retain it or whatever. SHIRES: Yep, yep on his songs without asking him. And her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back after a short break. This has been the hardest year. When the ball goes in the pocket, you win. Writing songs isnt so cut and dried, he says. SHIRES: (Singing) Trying not to think of names. You have your fiddle with you. Which would I rather have? 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(SOUNDBITE OF AMANDA SHIRES SONG, HAWK FOR THE DOVE), GROSS: Our digital media producer is Molly Seavy-Nesper. Trending It's not often in country musicor pop music for that matterin which an artist addresses a very personal and sensitive subject like abortion through a song. Did you actually meet him? NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WTVF) Three months after an emergency heart transplant, Grammy-nominated keyboardist, producer, songwriter and artist Peter Levin So I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. All rights reserved (About Us). I had to spend the night with her at work. And this is after some kind of nebulous argument. AL.com spoke to Isbell last September about when he decided implementing these COVID restrictions at his shows was the right thing to do, how this stance has affected the relationship with some of his fans, what its like to finally hit the road and play again and what it will take for Alabama to have a change of heart on getting vaccinated. We found music, and then being in the Shoals area just gave us an early look at all the places music can take you. But I had about seven different album sequences going on. Shires plays fiddle in her husband Jason Isbells band, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. Thats what I want. I know the cost of flight is landing. Just admit Im what you want. So when I would write the songs, I dont know whats going to come out, but sometimes, it was so I was just so down that the only way I could get better was to take it out on writing a song. And in this case, I wanted Jason to also come in and sing it, too. Is that right? But I did move a couple of times out of the house, not because it was a leaving thing, but because I didnt want to do anything that would harm, you know, make it worse. She was in her home recording studio with her fiddle and with guitarist Zach Setchfield, and they played a few songs. He has since learned to tell the story of his recovery. 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See where your favorite artists and songs rank on the Rolling Stone Charts. Shires, who was touring with the Texas Playboys when she was still a teenager, has a sense of responsibility thats been good for him, he says. Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. Since publishing my op-ed, Ive heard from some folks who are in their eighties. I also received responses from trolls. During the #MeToo moment, much emphasis has been rightly placed on the need for women to guard themselves against the unrestrained appetites of male perpetrators. When the band step back from their microphones to begin the extended breakdown, Isbell smiles like a boy on a great adventure. SHIRES: I mean, I think theyre pretty good. I know everyone is scared of losing their rung on the ladder, but there are more important things, I think, than your fame. In 2020, she penned an op-ed for Rolling Stone about why abortion rights matter. People dont have to come to a concert, Isbell said. Warblers and wrens, hymn at my throat, shook and quivering. hide caption. As Delta Variant Spreads, Artists and Venues Scramble to Keep Concerts Safe (Rolling Stone), Live Nation Allows Artists to Require Vaccination or Proof of Negative Test Result for U.S. Concerts (Variety), This is a BETA experience. But for me, I was just happy to be up there playing music I loved. McWhorter, who had played fiddle in Bob Wills band, became her teacher, and when Shires was just 15, he asked her to join The Texas Playboys. I recorded my interview with her last week. GROSS: So how seriously were you taken by the musicians in the band? You can keep the car and the house. Are they just going to sit around and drink beer? Yeah without you asking. SHIRES: Theres this song called Milk Cow Blues. Its blues, you know? So thanks to them as well. Victoria is scheduled to open for Isbell on this tour. This happened to me two and a half weeks before Texas abortion ban went into effect. I was lucky. Also, during this time when I was leaving, I was thinking about how Mercy was you know, picked up a kazoo, and she could play a kazoo. Thanks., RELATED: Jason Isbell slams Morgan Wallens appearance at Grand Ole Opry: Not surprised Just sad, Jason Isbell on the road, hummingbirds, fan requests and critical thinking in America, Jason Isbell on COVID vaccine mandates at concerts: No, were not taking away your freedom. 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And I save them all and I return to them often I own one of his guitars My whole left arm is tattoos of Leonard Cohen I really do feel like he did a lot of work for me that I dont have to do. Were you in Texas at the time? So she did daytime job. I remember thinking, Wow, theres a lot of potential for me to really mess this up.'. ", In the bruising roots rocker "Eve's Daughter," propelled by a tense groove and serrated, scraggy guitar riffs, Shires plays the part of a woman so desperate to expand her horizons and satisfy her hunger that she's unafraid to take risks in the name of escape. And Bob Wills was, like, the father of Western Swing, which combined country music and jazz. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. I had people threatening me. It was keeping me up at night. 99.99%. And nobody would let me in, but I sat there anyway. That last talk left me a makeup rainbow of tears, turned everything blurry. Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires Celebrate Vinyl and Indie Retail as Record Store Days 2023 Ambassadors: Were Building the Embassy as We Speak. Which brings up the question, why were Jason and I, and Margo Price, the biggest celebrities quasi-celebrities at the march in Nashville? And tell us how. SHIRES: Ive listened to all of his records. So one of the things you learned, like, I think in the past few years is that your grandfather had spent years in prison. If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer and musician Amanda Shires. I was snared by your wrist. In an interview on MSNBC Monday, Isbell stated the response he has received from people who work at the venues and in the music business has been positive because they understand we could go back to not working at all, adding that smaller venues might not be able to reopen if they go through another round of shutdowns. And Zachs going to play guitar. Moon, in all your splendor. And so I got to do that basically because I was willing to work in a group and play a part and do just that thing and show up on time. GROSS: Yeah. And Tommy said, if you can hold down that lower third harmony and Id love to, you know, have that spot filled. With artists and concert promoters nationwide forced to confront a surging spike in infections and hospitalizations attributed to the spread of the delta variant, Im your man. AMANDA SHIRES AND JASON ISBELL: (Singing) Everythings going to be OK. Its going to be all right. And while I I know the voice that I have is what I have. When I would write the songs, I dont know whats going to come out, but sometimes I was just so down that the only way I could get better was to take it out on writing a song., Shires sings and plays fiddle throughout this interview. Because once you have a baby, theres no social programming to help. So Im going to ask you to play one more song from your new album, to perform it for us. Note: NPR's First Listen audio comes down after the album is released. But they also understood that I was a kid. On your Twitter, you describe yourself as a disciple of Leonard Cohen. How did you manage to do that? I dont feel like it matches whats going on inside my brain. When it came down to it, when I finally got it done and recorded, Amy Coney Barrett had gotten sworn in. SHIRES: Oh, right, in Alcatraz. And then and neither of them told us that stuff. And then and the words are amazing and always brought me a smile. Her new album of original songs is called Take It Like A Man. She also co-founded the country supergroup the Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. And couple of lessons like that, he pulled out some fiddle tunes that he had been transcribing aurally from Frankie McWhorter. Its pretty obvious.. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there, so I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. ISBELL: (Singing) Im on your side. You know, its Jimmy Webbs song originally, but. For those who are unfamiliar, it is impossible for an ectopic pregnancy to go to term. Click the audio link above to get the full experience, On channeling her feelings about her marriage into writing Fault Lines and showing it to Isbell, I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering, and this is after some kind of nebulous argument, and I wrote Fault Lines and then I texted it to him, just like youd imagine, I said, I just wrote this song. And then in my mind I thought, Well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? And so I felt in my mind, I felt those things. 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